From Exemption Cards to Cyclones: Remembering, Surviving and Rebuilding on Palm ===
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Fires because it took bad or foot, whatever. Yeah. I didn't get affected by any of that. Yeah. But people did, um, because we're doing that stuff as well. I don't know if you've seen, have you seen of those beds floating around? Community? They're made outta crates. Yeah, I see that. Yeah. My brother's got, oh yeah.
Um, so we're trying to work out how to create better goods for community. So we started with like experimenting with the beds. So what the beds sort of, so it's got a, the idea is in some community, um, the mattresses are causing a lot of problems because they're spreading disease and it's really hard to wash a mattress.
And so we're experimenting with, um, foam and toppers that can go in a washing machine. Ah, yep, yep. And then you can sort of keep washing them over and over. Mm. Um, but our neck. Project is a washing machine, [00:01:00] so we're bringing those over in a few months time. Just experiment with what is a, we're calling it an indestructible washing machine to try and work.
There's a lot of washing. Do break down, eh? Yeah. Yeah. We're trying over here. Yeah. What about, and they got cheek and they've got all the scar, right? Yeah. Well it's um. No, it's very similar because, um, my, the person I work with, um, he's the co-founder of Orange Scope and that's where he got all these Oh, okay.
That's where he got the ideas from to do this stuff as well. They're from Brisbane a Yeah, cofounder a yeah. Yeah. So, uh, um, yeah, so when a, actually the orange by board meeting is gonna be on farm in a few months time, they're gonna come over here and do some Oh, okay. Bruising around.
I think they [00:02:00] do all right. They go around, yeah.
Every day. Yeah. Like I, yeah, I saw them around yesterday too. Frozen.
Yeah. So yeah, I mean like, yeah, there's a couple of things and hang out with the Rangers a lot too. Rich. Some stuff.
You know Rachel, talk about what stuff? Yeah. The second per or whatever it's, oh yeah, yeah. That's pretty expensive. Really hectic. Yeah's expensive. It's triple the price. You go to the mainland. Well, she's gonna be, you know.
The flood has affect us. She's affecting the cost of living. Yeah. Yeah. Don't think it's open today, but you going, have you had to look at it? I'd love to look at it, [00:03:00] yeah. 'cause that's the stuff we're really interested in is like why things are costing so much solutions. Cq, that's a store there. Yeah.
That's responsive. Yeah. She's. Of the company and the company operates a community store here. Mm. Yeah. I went in there yesterday and I looked at the, I sat on the lounge. Mm. And it's a lovely lounge. I lovely because it lifted up. Put your underneath.
Hectic. Oh nah. Yeah. That's the stuff we're really interested in is Yeah. Why, why goods are so expensive. Like any type of good, um, here. Yeah. We worry about our [00:04:00] people a lot more. Mm-hmm. And you know, they say when you get a lot of money, they don't spend it wisely our people, but they do. AG is, you should see them.
I know there's a lot of stuff in the media around the rights money, and then they have money I assist. Um, they by goods from town. Mm. Stuff come over on the P six. That's why people travel to Townsville every week too. Mm. Groceries cheaper groceries. It was too expensive for us. Pensioners that for me.
Yeah. Not for me too. You know, being a pensioner, we aged pension over. I Mm.
Does anyone need a washing machine at the moment? No. No, you're all good. No, we've need a new one up house. Oh, you got one house went. [00:05:00] What's a,
do you, I feel like getting up and helping you. Was,
um, what else is happening today? A bit of like a few talks and they're talking about the history of our Yeah. Yep. Our elders. Yeah. Bit of war past on Yeah. Just how, um, Palm was established. Mm. Yeah. Mm.
Yeah, I was doing some story stuff with Uncle Alan this morning talking about some, some of his stories and paintings, and
it was 40 different tribes. Mm.
Just to sit cycle on the, and you, you never have harmony with tribes, [00:06:00] your clans. You have your inside and your outside clans. You know, so, yeah. Do you know what I found out, eh, last week, Monday, you know, the, uh, you hear all the stories that your mom and the elders tell you mm-hmm. About harm and that I never realized the exemption card was mm-hmm.
Got the exemption card. Yeah. I know that is move Yeah. To another town. Yeah. And who was, I didn't know that they would allow them to, so with rock. They wouldn't allow us. True. So once you got exempt, like a simulation policy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a simulation. Yeah. Yeah. You're not gonna be on everyone. Yeah.
Upper class black. Mm. Yeah. Right. You have to find your own place, you know? Yeah. It was hard for us. Mm.[00:07:00]
So then, then just imagine like trying to go back then. Yeah. And you got ostracized from there. Yeah. Like you never grew up, you used to grow up here, but you left long time ago because you, and I've heard that, you know, people say that. I didn't realize that they, you know where I say this from? Denise, your uncle.
Mr. Binga. Hey. Yeah, I heard that when I was a kid. Him, yeah. Got his exemption. Ah, that's a long time ago, aren't you? Yep. Yeah.
To find out up there where,
yeah. True. And young people then weren't allowed to associate with you. Yeah. You know, your family or [00:08:00] Yeah. You know, and we, it's always been family. It was our, our culture. It's in our culture. Family ain't. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. You know, we all stuck by our family families. Mm. Yeah. And we lost that culture. And our, when our dad died, our brother, our brothers more or less became our dad.
You know, things like that. See Rose, we can't speak at Parents Lane. We gave 40 different child lost. Yeah. And Mom, you still speak theirs? You know where we come from originally? Yeah. Across the street. They still speak. Oh, where? Whereabouts is that? My mom. Oh yeah. Yeah. And they're very fluent, but here they stopped us.
Oh, my granny. I used to see her cry brokenhearted because they used to yell at her. Speak English. Mm-hmm. Speak English. [00:09:00] She couldn't. Mm-hmm. Oh, they couldn't. To this day, rose, we can't speak at parents' language. No, we can't. Because of the white circum. Yeah. So
some really, um, important stories in all this isn't there? Mm. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. I just imagine the stories that were, were back then. Mm-hmm. We lost them. It wasn't out that we Oral history too early was
Yeah. Then you trying to wrap your brain sort of. I think there was like, you can see some of the stuff here in the green time. Like you can see the rocks with, you had bush in it. Mm. And there's specific trees that just look different and the story trees, you know? Mm-hmm. There's no one I ran that to tell it that story there.[00:10:00]
Yeah. They gentry do though. That's it. Yeah. That's off the top. Oh.
Can't teach it into the school. See, because we can't mm-hmm. Well up and cook down old fell and cook down. They teach it in the schools. Yeah. So the kids don't forget. Yeah. They mustn't forget. Yeah.
Yeah. That's not the, it's very sad.
So we can just keep the stories going, what we know now. Yeah. I think it's a new era for us. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I see kids that are strong in their identity and it makes a [00:11:00] big difference to how they grow up. And I do a lot of work with, um. Kids in youth justice sex system and Oh yeah. A lot of them kids are struggling to know who they are and that stuff.
Oh yeah. That's why they can't get out of the ru they're in Yeah. Kids. We're on the dust group. Oh, cool. We work with the courts too. Oh, awesome. Only adults. Yep. It just, yep. Different generation the last 12, 13 years. Mm. Same line. It's um. How do you, how do you break this cycle of violence and Yeah, continue to just,
I used to come here 14 years ago with corrective services and run programs at thirties Haven. Oh, okay. Yeah. With probation, parole. Yeah. Even thirties is no longer now. Yeah. Such a good spot there to have [00:12:00] something. Right. It's a beautiful spot. Mm. It is. Trying to get the men's healing program. Mm. To run, operate down there.
Mm. No. They wanna sit in our, pulled it through. And when we wanted a place like that, we went for that place. Mm. Oh Mr. At that time, you know Denise, he argued with us and said he couldn't, that was tidal wave. When we argued with him. Mm, no, it's not. He wanted us to have, you know where Lenny and Deanne and Young Lenny?
Yeah. Terry. Terry. Yeah. That's where he wanted us to get fed his bills. Mm. We said no, we want that. They. Because it's, it's was for the good of the people. You know, you the scene for healing the good spot we get. Exactly. Yeah. And being we were all alcoholics. We all drank. Yeah. Drank too much. Yeah. And we [00:13:00] needed something good.
Yeah. Know for our future generation.
That's true.
Yeah, well I'm, I'm here till Friday and um, yeah, I sort of on back on Magic Trolley. I'll catch it. Ready?
Oh, here we do. Yeah. Oh.
Back the, Hey, come on. Isn't that meat? Look at that, Ben. What you are pushing 152 milk bottles. Is that recycling? Oh, on the handle milk. Oh, on the handle, right. Be luck. See that you're pushing 152. We need to do more of that here. Don't we? [00:14:00] Made in Australia from recycled milk bottles? Isn't that neat? Where?
Yeah, because there's strong dude. There's an option with those beds that you can make it out of community plastic and you can, um, melt it down. And then the crates are actually just, you know, like a waffle maker. Oh. So you can like, close it? Close it. You can, yeah. Yeah. So you could, you could pick up community rubbish and make crates out of it.
Yeah. I recycle. Yeah. I come and my little bit down the road here. Oh yeah. Do you take it to containers for change? Yeah. 2-year-old grandson. Oh yeah. I'm just teaching the o other grannies about making earn, earn some money. Working for your money. Yeah. So they wanna go to the town show. Yeah. I said Yeah, you can go to the show, but you can pick up pants and make That's awesome.
Some money. That's amazing. They got that little bank account. Oh, that's cool. Ah, right. Um, be dependent on welfare handouts. Yeah. That's, get them outta that cycle. [00:15:00] One's 10 and one's eight. But they're good. They know what they doing. Good. Excuse me. How long this gonna go away? Won't be long there. No, hardly.
Oh. Hold on. Just for today. That's all. Daddy. You saying Daddy my rubbish man in. Oh, you had? Ah, yeah. They never in my fucking rubish house. Oh. And all in the country.
Fucking Rob drum. Oh yeah. In the cu Yeah. They bought a on my fucking arm cunt. My ring in my house. Nothing. All my fucking four clean. So that's just. Yeah, she got affected by the flood fell. Yeah. I didn't, to be honest with you, I don't even plan for the money 'cause Yeah, right. I didn't, [00:16:00] can't affect me.
True. I've got mold on the walls, but I'm, yeah. Oh yeah. The mold. With the mold and clean. Morning. Good morning. How are you? How are you? Good, thanks.
I become real. I'm I.
I needs to fill that. Another thing.
Yeah. You know how to post it out. Yeah, but I, she knows I don't know the address. Yeah. But I'm gonna draw $8 out, so I've gotta give it to things I put in his account. See, I only got 50 in my account for that.
Just juggling money for the kids in jail.


Elders Group
Palm Island, Queensland, Australia
The Elders Group, guided by Ben, serves as a vibrant conduit for preserving and sharing the profound stories of Australia's Indigenous communities. Rooted in the rich tapestry of places like Palm Island, Calcadun country, and beyond, Ben's journey is defined by heartfelt yarning sessions with elders like Ethel and Frank, capturing the essence of life through storms and celebrations. His collaborations with the Elders Justice Group and on projects like Orange Sky weave together narratives that reveal the nuanced, dynamic lives of these communities, aiming to create publications that reflect their resilience and wisdom. Engaged deeply in the art of storytelling, the group is dedicated to illuminating the myriad voices and experiences that shape their world, fostering understanding across Australia.
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